Kemi Badenoch

Kemi Badenoch Gives Up on God… But Doesn’t Give Up on God

11 August 2025

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British conservative leader Kemi Badenoch has told the BBC how she lost her faith in God.

Badenoch, whose grandfather was a Methodist minister, said she had always believed in God and regularly attended church.

But that changed when, in her late twenties, she read horrific reports of how Austrian sex offender Josef Fritzl had imprisoned and repeatedly raped his daughter Elizabeth in a basement over more than two decades.

Double Standards?

Badenoch said she could not understand why her prayers were being answered, while those of Fritzl’s daughter were not.

“I was praying for all sorts of stupid things and I was getting my prayers answered.

“I was praying to have good grades, my hair should grow longer and I would pray for the bus to come on time so I wouldn’t miss something.

“It’s like, ‘Why were those prayers answered and not this woman’s prayers?’ And it just — it was like someone blew out a candle.”

What she says makes a lot of sense at first hearing, and I think a lot of people would relate…

Who hasn’t looked at injustice in the world and been tempted to give up on faith in God?

After all, how can there be a God when so many bad things happen, especially to good people?

It’s an age-old question and, on an emotional level, I totally get it.

If you think with your feelings and reason according to your emotions, then, of course, you would look at the state of the world and give up on God.

Whenever I meet an atheist, I ask them: “What happened?”

Most people give up on God because of a bad experience rather than because of an intellectual obstacle.

Moral Foundation

Let’s reason this out, though. Because I contend that injustice is a reason to turn toward belief in God — and Jesus in particular — rather than away.

Here’s the irony…

The argument for not believing in God because bad things happen relies entirely on there being a God.

After all, if there is no God, on what basis can we declare something bad, or evil, or unfair?

If there is no God then everything is meaningless. So if there is no God there is no point complaining about evil, or wrongdoing, or unfairness.

Without God, all our concepts of justice are illusionary. Chemicals playing tricks on our brain.

The moment you get upset about injustice, you are positing the existence of God, not the opposite.

In fact, the REASON we get upset about pain and injustice is precisely because we think ultimate reality ought to be righteous and loving.

And the moment you believe some things ought to happen and some things ought not happen, you are appealing to an objective standard that exists beyond your own personal preferences and opinions.

In other words, the very complaint is an appeal to God.

Free Will

The question then becomes, what sort of God would permit evil, and why?

This is a much better question because it is first, logical, and second, a doorway to answering or finding a way to cope with injustice and to bear pain.

The question essentially is:

If God is all good and all-powerful, why does He allow bad things to happen?

Is He not good?

Or perhaps He is not as powerful as we had hoped.

Essentially, the question demands a God who intervenes whenever something bad is about to happen.

At first hearing, that sounds perfect. A God who jumps in and out of my life — whenever I or someone else is about to do something stupid — sounds ideal.

But on reflection, to ask for that is to ask for something God cannot give.

Think about it…

If we want a God who gives us free will, then we cannot, at the same time, want a God who jumps in and out of our daily lives, preventing every calamity.

Either we have freedom, or we do not.

Either we choose our actions, or we do not.

We cannot have it both ways.

God cannot grant free will to humanity and not grant free will to humanity all at the same time and in the same way.

To insist that He does is to hold God to a standard of applying two mutually exclusive alternatives and is essentially meaningless.

Your Choice

God did give us free will. He also gave free will to those around us.

And God’s gift of free will means that in many cases, people will choose to do terrible things — to themselves and to others.

So what are we to conclude about that?

First, the reason God gave us free will is so that we can have a relationship with Him.

To have a genuine relationship with God, we must be free to reject a relationship with God.

And evil only occurs at all because people reject God and choose sin. If people didn’t reject God in the first instance, there would be no evil.

This puts the problem of pain into sharp and unexpected perspective.

The first victim of mankind’s free will is not me, or other men, but God.

Rather than man ceasing to believe in God because of evil, it is God who should cease to believe in us!

Let that sink in!

Have you never thought it strange that we ask the question, how can God allow so much evil in the world… but always about the evil others do?

We never personalise it, look in the mirror and ask how God can allow us to do so much evil.

I wonder why.

Everlasting Love

Rather than reject us because of evil, God took on human form and leaned into us… personally taking part in our pain and suffering — even to the point of death on a cross.

If God stood apart and afar off from our sorrow — unsympathetic and unable to relate — then I would be suspicious of Him.

But the Christian message is surprising.

It tells of a God who becomes one of us and suffers with us.

At the very least, that should pique our curiosity.

It should really engender our trust.

It should cause us to trust that if a good God allows free will — and with it so much horrible injustice and suffering that even affected Him — it can only be because what follows this life of pain is so glorious as to be worth it.

I know that’s hard to get our head around when there is so much evil and so much pain.

But the Bible promises that in eternity every tear will disappear — no more crying, no more weeping.

Joy evermore.

Jesus says to trust Him that the glory of eternity will be worth whatever hardship we endure for a short season here.

And I do trust Him. Everything I know of Jesus says that He is trustworthy.

And besides, what is the alternative?

Do we find meaning or justice in our suffering by giving up on God? Quite the opposite.

Giving up on God does not stop suffering and injustice. It simply declares that suffering and injustice serve no purpose, have zero meaning and can never, ever be resolved.

How is that a better position in which to wake up tomorrow?

Which brings me back to a curious thing that Kemi Badenoch said at the end of her BBC interview.

Having said her candle of faith had been snuffed out by the question of injustice, Badenoch then said that she remains a “cultural Christian”.

She told the BBC she wants to “protect certain things because I think the world that we have in the UK is very much built on many Christian values”.

In other words, she rejects God, but wants to hang on to God just the same.

And I get it.

With God, there are difficult questions that require us to trust Him. And that’s hard.

But without God, all is meaningless. And that is unbearable.

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5 Comments

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    BB 11 August 2025 at 10:59 am - Reply

    Well said!
    One little detail though. The problem with people like Kemi Bandenoch is that they’ve never really been christians. They’ve been raised by christians, raised to be christians, but never really understood the christian message. They’ve been more interested in social justice and what they really believe is that mankind is good, not evil.

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    Bev Poulos 11 August 2025 at 1:13 pm - Reply

    Canberra Declaration what do you stand for .

    Christianity IS NOT ABOUT MORALITY. Morality is a fruit of the knowledge of good and evil , not the tree of life who is Yeshua.

    True believers are in a poor situation in the EU. They have their leaders paid by governments ( so does Communist China). Believers in the UK and EU are spiritually starving. There is a falling away by remnant believers who cannot stay in churches teaching apostasy.

    I am going to quote from a Rhema Word circulated to Intercessors world wide. I hope CD prays over this word
    “A great clash is about the occur upon the earth. It will be a chase of Kingdoms as not seen before…..There will be no doubt, which earthly powers are aligned with which spiritual force My armies will come to fight alongside of the righteous, even as the second heaven and the underworld have already called their fighters into the populations of men. The battle that is coming will be one initiated and called forth by My voice and facilitated by My hand.

    . ..the world’s spiritual environment is becomi ng compressed as My glory descends to press down heavily upon the evil ones…. Bear up under it and draw strength from My Spirit. Focus on ME and take your food and drink from My word, as the final preparations for the battle are now being aligned….You must realize that this is far greater in reach and in significance than anything you have experienced of battle before. This will not be the final war, which will be the end of your world. This will be a cleansing battle that will offer your world a respite and a new start for a season of refreshment and renewal in revival. what has been done to My Creation upon the earth, is far beyond the set legal boundaries in which evil was allowed to operate. The legal consequences established for human sin, spiritual distraction and rebellion, committed by My own dear children, were prescribed to occur within set limits. But in recent d3cades, the Evil One has been excessively bringing pain and loss, by ongoing My set boundaries. He has invaded territory that has been set aside. I allowed this to occur for a time, to bring My children to their senses .. to bring them into an awareness of the cause and effect realities … of when and how their sin triggers legal rights, held by the Evil One, to have a strike against them.
    …….the level and weight of this wickedness has now become too great for Me to allow it to continue…….An accounting is at hand. It will be accomplished by ME. No human should glory in the reset.

    It will be most important for you to stand up now and declare your alliance and allegiance to My Kingdom. Those who are doubleminded, or who try to stand as a negotiator or as a peacemaker, between good and evil to avoid conflict, will be disqualified from being counted as ones who will be allowed to continue in their place.

    Many will be discontinued from earthly life itself . This has been what the shaking has been about The shaking has been a sorting, as well as a call to take the side upon which you will stand and be counted.

    Even as My children in the wilderness were called to stand with My commandments and with My authority, they were required to stand away from the golden calf and its creators in a demonstration of that choice. To stand between the two and not choose, was to be counted among the destroyed. The ground shook and opened up: swallowing both the intentionally evil and the undecidedly evil.

    Now is the time to move to your position of choice. If you stand with the Devourers…with the murderers and the thieves of false gods.. against My chosen children and nation, you will bear the consequences of this in the coming battle. If you take your stand with rebellion against My authority over this world of creation – against My created order and natural laws…you will be sorted out . You will stand defenseless at the moment of battle and I will not come to your aid. This applies to both you, the rebellious ones and to you, the doubleminded ones. Those of you who are deceived and confused, come out of that position quickly….
    Those who remain in their place, worshipping their opinions, suppositions, religious doctrines and theologies that exclude and remove My people from their place, which I established for them, will soon pay the price for that arrogance and false worship.

    I will always offer forgiveness to the repentant and eternal salvation even to the last heartbeat. However I will not accommodate, tolerate nor bow to the Evil One, nor to his committed allies whether spiritual entities or human beings.

    This is part of a long Rhema by Kathleen Mitchell 29/7/2025

    I had meditated upon this Rhema and have taken the decision to remove myself from the Canberra Declaration.

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    Steve C 11 August 2025 at 1:23 pm - Reply

    The two points you raise are excellent and the crux of the matter. C. S. Lewis made the same point stating “how do I know that some act or outcome is good or evil unless there is a transcendent standard.” If this is not the case then good and evil simply depend on how you or I feel about the situation. In that case how can anyone say that Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were wrong or evil as they felt they were doing the best thing for their nations.

    The other point about free will is also significant. Years ago I heard some one say “so if God needs to intervene to stop evil acts happening then just when a blow is to be struck God miraculously stops or freezes the punch in mid air so the victim can get away.” The world would actually stop functioning. It opens the question is a harsh word evil enough to be stopped or is it only for real violence or only for events that effect large numbers of people.

    The earlier comment is also pertinent people who are cultural Christians will always go for social justice which of course is not biblical justice which has a holy and righteous component as well as love. So biblical justice whilst it tries to bring justice to people it never affirms an unrighteous lifestyle.

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      Warren J Brown 11 August 2025 at 8:15 pm - Reply

      Well said James.
      I like your logic.
      John Lennox says that God could have eliminated injustice and suffering by creating robots who “religiously” did all the good and right things thereby eliminating evil. Problem solved.
      However love and free will would have also been eliminated too. Not necessary.
      Which way do you think was better?
      Not the car & cartoon bloke.

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    Lynne 12 August 2025 at 5:10 am - Reply

    The mystic John Ruysbroeck said that if we were actually separated from God, we would fall into nothingness. So, it would seem that we are united with God whether we wish to be or not. It is our reliance on reason (since the Enlightenment era) that has caused us to believe that we “know”. Perhaps it is time to look back and figure out the salient messages that once made the Christian faith great and apply them to ourselves. There will always be evil and injustice in the world and every person has a dark side. We are on Earth to learn how to integrate the dark with the righteous and become whole.

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