Conclave

Movie Review: “Conclave” — What If the Vatican Went the Full D.E.I?

28 January 2025

20.1 MINS

Warning: This review contains spoilers to key aspects of the film. Let the reader beware, you have been duly notified.

The movie Conclave is currently playing in cinemas, and while it’s still only January, I’m going to stick my neck out and say that it’s going to be one of the best films of 2025. Conclave is receiving rave reviews from critics and audiences alike. Based on the book of the same title by Robert Harris, Conclave is generating a lot of discussion and online debate.[1] Especially when Harris has stated in an interview with his publisher, WHSmith, that his aim is always as follows:

For me, fiction is a great tool exploring truth, which I suppose is what all fiction is, if it has any moral content beyond mere entertainment. For me, that’s what I try to do and in all my books. I try never to be dishonest about the facts for… whatever the book is. I’d like to treat the truth with respect, but try and find some tools of revealing it, or making it more interesting, or looking at it from the side, or imagining what it must have been like. That’s what I’m always trying to do, and that’s what I’m trying to that’s what I try to do in this book.

However, especially for Christians, there is an extra need for caution. Movies are the slickest form of propaganda the world has to offer. And if, as Harris says, “fiction is a vehicle for exploring truth”, then discerning the author’s truth claims is all the more important for people who follow the One who says He alone is the Truth. (John 14:6)

My wife’s initial reaction when we walked out of the theatre was, “If I were still a Catholic, I’d be really ticked by that film.” It’s not difficult to understand her reasons why. As is common with nearly every movie, the Catholic Church is presented as being completely corrupt, filled with people who are only hungry for power, prestige and cultural influence, rather than a desire to serve God. While everyone is sinful (Rom. 3:23) the reality is, this is simply not fair or true. [2]

First of All, the Good

Before addressing the substance of the film itself, it’s important to acknowledge Conclave’s superb production values. This is a powerful piece of modern storytelling, and each one of the key components in making Conclave is achieved brilliantly. Here’s a quick list of some of these elements:

  • The music of a drawn-out violin is haunting and definitely adds to the tension at key moments. Real choral music is also used, which adds a reverent touch when needed. If you’ve seen Edward Berger’s All Quiet on the Western Front (2022) — directed by the same director of Conclave — then you’ll know how this genre of instrumental music can be used to create a dark mood of tension and apprehension.
  • The cinematography is superb. So many of the shots are framed in such a way that the viewer is captivated by their beauty. From the exquisite architectural design of the buildings in the Vatican, to the private bedrooms of the cardinals, to the main auditorium where their votes for who will be the next Pope are cast. Each scene is wonderfully framed.
  • Following on from the previous point, the costumes are excellent. In some ways, this is easy to do because it’s simply reflecting the dress of real-life cardinals and archbishops. But this is interspersed with the drab attire of nuns and the starkly out-of-place uniforms of the ambulance officers who transport the Pope once he has died.
  • The pacing of the film is also expertly done. As anyone who has been involved even in local church politics, to make the outcome of an election exciting and filled with dramatic tension is a feat in and of itself. But the film never lags and keeps the viewer invested for the full one hundred and twenty minutes.
  • The script is concise, with many memorable lines and expressions of thought. The dialogue is captivating and compelling, drawing the viewer in and making you believe in each of the movie’s main characters.
  • Last but not least, the casting is excellent. Each one of the main characters is not only believable, but they perform their roles perfectly. Ralph Fiennes is particularly good playing the spiritually doubt-filled dean, but he is more than admirably supported by Stanley Tucci, John Lithgow and especially Sergio Castellitto. Without giving the final twist away too soon, Carlos Diehz is the ideal candidate for the final “doubt” the movie seeks to make audiences believe.

Doubt is Not the Essence of Faith

With that said, now to the core element of the film. Like a spine running through a human torso, the director himself identifies the theme of “doubt” as the driving philosophical force for the entire film. This is presented in an important homily given by Ralph Fiennes’ character, Cardinal Thomas Lawrence, as the conclave begins. Switching from Italian to English, Cardinal Lawrence seeks to inspire his fellow Cardinals with these words:

But you know all that… let me speak from the heart for a moment. St Paul said, “Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ.” To work together, to grow together, we must be tolerant. No one person or faction seeking to dominate another.

Speaking to the Ephesians, who were of course a mixture of Jews and Gentiles, Paul reminds us that God’s gift to the Church is its variety. It is this variety, this diversity of people and views which gives our Church its strength.

Over the course of the years in service to one another, let me tell you that there is one sin which I have come to fear above all others. Certainty. Certainty is the great enemy of unity. Certainty is the deadly enemy of tolerance. Even Christ was not certain at the end. “Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabachani” (My God, My God, Why have you forsaken Me?), He cried out in His agony at the ninth hour on the cross.

Our faith is a living thing precisely because it walks hand in hand with doubt. If there was only certainty and no doubt, there would be no mystery, and therefore no need for faith.

Let us pray that God will grant us a pope who doubts. And Him grant us a pope who sins and asks for forgiveness… and carries on.

One of the best things Peter Jensen, the former Anglican Archbishop of Sydney, taught us when I was in my first year at Moore Theological College, is that one’s heart is never to be trusted. Just because someone “speaks from the heart” doesn’t mean that what they are saying is trustworthy, accurate or true.

For as the prophet Jeremiah once wrote, “The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?” (Jer. 17:9). Dr Jensen memorably said that one may as well air to the world their dirty laundry as reveal the contents of one’s own sinful heart.

There are more things wrong with this fictional movie sermon though, than the one Mariann Edgar Budde, Episcopal Bishop of Washington, gave after Donald Trump’s inauguration at the National Cathedral. Although to be fair, it does contain more Scripture than the humanistic hectoring she gave to the US President! Let me briefly explain:

First, the Lord Jesus wasn’t filled with doubt when He exclaimed those famous last words on the cross, but was quoting from the opening line of Psalm 22:1. This is a profound prophecy about a future Son of David (King of Israel) who would suffer in precisely the same ways Christ did at the cross. For instance:

  • He’d be mocked and taunted (Ps. 22:6-8)
  • He’d be surrounded by ravenous enemies (Ps. 22:12-13)
  • He’d suffer excruciating pain and humiliation (Ps. 22:14-15
  • He’d have his feet and hands pierced (Ps. 22:16)
  • He’d have his garments taken and gambled away (Ps. 22:18)

But that is not where the Psalm ends. On an incredible note of victory, the Psalm concludes with the suffering king and saviour’s persecution being reversed and Him triumphing over His enemies in glorious victory. In words strongly reminiscent of what John records Jesus as saying on the cross (‘It is Finished.’ John 19:30), King David writes:

All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
All who go down to the dust will kneel before Him –
Those who cannot keep themselves alive.
Posterity will serve Him;
Future generations will be told about the LORD.
They will proclaim His righteousness
To a people yet unborn –
For He has done it!
(Psalm 22:29-31)

Please note: I’m not saying that Christ didn’t suffer terribly upon the cross. He was physically and spiritually tortured in such a way that is entirely correct — and in no way hyperbole — to say that He literally went through Hell for us. Jesus drank the cup of the Father’s wrath as He took upon Himself the punishment for our sins (Isaiah 53).

But here’s the thing: Jesus knew what He was doing. He knew that this was the Father’s will. And He knew that this was the only way through which we who believe in Him could be saved. Jesus wasn’t doubting then when He uttered these words, but making the most glorious confession of faith the world has ever seen.

Second, our faith is not in the “Church’” but in “Christ”. This is the clever bait-and-switch Fiennes’ character makes by talking first of all about unity and then reflecting upon diversity. If only he had set the apostle Paul’s words from Ephesians 5:21 into the broader context of the letter, then the meaning of how unity is achieved would become clear. The goal of faith is to see everyone come under the headship of Christ (See Eph. 4:11-13). That’s the only way and in the only One through whom spiritual unity is to be found.

Third, and this is key to the rest of the film, rather than certainty being a “deadly enemy”, it is the very essence of faith. As we read in the book of Hebrews, “Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.” (Heb. 11:1) Certainty is not the enemy to faith then, but its consolation. It resolves the “mystery” of the unseen by trusting in He who is eternal and does not change. To doubt Him then is to destroy faith. As such, it is not a virtue to be embraced, but a sin to be repented of. [3]

That is not to say that we should respond to people who struggle to trust in Christ harshly. Jude says we should be “merciful to those who doubt” (Jude 22). But being “merciful” is completely different to being “affirming”. Having grown up in the Catholic Church myself, I was always struck by the part of the liturgy which paraphrases the words of Mark 9:24, “I believe, help my unbelief.” Everyone wrestles with doubt. The question is, by the grace of God, will we overcome it?

Cardinal ‘Doubting’ Thomas

It is surely intentional then that Cardinal Lawrence’s Christian name is “Thomas”. In the Bible, the disciple is the one who is infamous amongst the twelve apostles for having doubted (John 20:24-25). Once again, the Bible presents Thomas’ actions in such a way that even though some might find his indecision understandable, it is by no means commendable. This is why Scripture contains numerous warnings against doubt and unbelief. For example:

‘See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.’ (Hebrews 3:12-13)

‘If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.’ (James 1:5-8)

The character of Cardinal Thomas Lawrence though, is in many ways the central protagonist of the film. We follow him from the opening scene to the final one on a spiritual journey. What we learn throughout the movie though, is that Cardinal Lawrence is seriously struggling with his significant spiritual doubts. So much so that he acknowledges that he can no longer pray unless it is through a written liturgy.

The theme of “doubt”, then, is the sub-plot which runs all the way through Conclave. But this is not how God wants any one of us to respond, and especially His disciple Thomas. As read, Jesus rebuked him at the end of John’s Gospel:

Then He said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” (John 20:27)

After Thomas then makes the remarkable confession that Jesus is his “Lord” and “God”, Jesus utters these incredible words, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen Me and yet have believed.” (John 20:29) There is great blessing in believing, but not to those who continue in unbelief and doubt.

Everyone Else is Conflicted

Conclave presents the scenario that most of the Cardinals in the Catholic Church are seeking the office of the papacy for nefarious reasons. Or at least, they are deeply conflicted individuals morally. That doesn’t stop Conclave from presenting four key characters to highlight the direction in which the Church should not proceed.

The first is Cardinal Tedesco, played by Sergio Castellitto. Tedesco is the arch-conservative who wants to take the Church back to pre-Vatican II. In particular, that the Mass be said in Latin. Even before the character of Cardinal Tedesco arrives, the viewer is left in doubt that he is evil. And it’s not long before we learn that he is a power-hungry, racist, misogynist wolf in sheep’s clothing. This is further confirmed in the movie’s climactic scene, where he goes on a full “Islamophobic” rant after a terrorist bombing spectacularly disrupts the conclave.

The second is Cardinal Tremblay, whom John Lithgow excels in portraying as a duplicitous and deceitful schemer. This American cardinal is later in the film found guilty of “simony” (the buying of an ecclesiastical office, named after the figure of Simon Magus in Acts 8:18). Tremblay goes to extraordinary lengths to destroy the chances of a key rival by bringing a nun to serve at the conclave, who thirty years earlier was guilty of having had an inappropriate relationship with one of the cardinals, resulting in the birth of an illegitimate child.

The third is Cardinal Adeyemi, played by Lucian Msamati. This African Cardinal looks to be the frontrunner in the election until his historical sexual indiscretion is dramatically uncovered. There is a moving scene where he is told that he needs to resign from the race and not seek nomination. It is a timely and powerful illustration of why Scripture says selfish ambition, even for followers of Jesus, is a temptation inspired by the devil himself. (i.e. James 3:14-15)

The fourth false path is exemplified by Cardinal Bellini, played by the extremely gifted Stanley Tucci (I need to emphasise and just say, once again, just how good the casting for this movie is). Bellini is the personification of the modern-day “woke” progressive. His clear agenda is women’s rights, acceptance of homosexuality, softening of the rules around divorce and remarriage, and especially increased dialogue with other faiths. Cardinal Bellini is the foil to Cardinal Tedesco, and in a key scene, Tucci’s character says to Fiennes, who is the Dean of the conclave, “It is a war! And you have to commit to a side!”

And the Winner is…

All of which brings us to the person who is finally chosen to be pope. He’s not black and sexually compromised. He’s not financially corrupt and trying to buy votes. He’s not ultra-conservative and bringing the Church back to the Latin Mass. And he’s not even a progressive and seeking to make the Church of Rome “woke”. No, he’s none of those things, because technically ‘he’ is not really a “he”. Yep, you heard that right, Pope Innocent (as he’d like to henceforth be known) is neither male nor female, but intersex. [4]

The character of enigmatic Cardinal Benitez, played by the biological male Carlos Diehz, is something of a “mystery” from the moment he is introduced. I use the word “mystery” deliberately, as he is the personification of what it means to walk not by faith (and certainty), but by “doubt”.

Before the conclave begins, Cardinal Benitez is cautiously accepted into the gathering, upon the cardinals learning that he has been secretly appointed by the previous pope as an underground cardinal in Afghanistan. As unbelievable as this might seem, what makes us as the viewer immediately side with “he/her” is because, unlike all the other cardinals, not only are “they” quiet and demure, but “they’ve” been on the “frontlines” of real ministry. All the other cardinals are viewed as ecclesiastical bureaucrats. Benitez has served all over the world in places such as the Congo, amongst the poor and dispossessed.

However, there’s only one problem. There is a huge amount of doubt regarding Cardinal Benitez’s biological sex. It’s not black and white, because he’s neither male nor female, but both. And herein is the “truth” which the author, and subsequent film, seeks to preach. Nothing is certain. Not even one’s chromosomes.

Instead, everything must be questioned, especially the dogma of the Catholic Church, because the world is so morally complicated that we must doubt rather than believe. Read carefully again the speech Benitez gives in Conclave’s climatic scene. When confronted by Cardinal “Doubting Thomas” to explain his “situation”, Benitez replies:

Benitez:               My situation, as you put it, is the same as when I was ordained as a priest and when I was made a cardinal. But [as for] the treatment in Geneva, there was no treatment. I considered it, I prayed for guidance and decided against it.

Lawrence:           But what would it have been, this treatment?

Benitez:               It was called a laparoscopic hysterectomy. You have to understand when I was a child there was no way of knowing. My situation was more complicated, and life in the seminary is, as you know, very modest. The truth is there simply was no reason to think I was physically different from the other young men.

Then, in my late 30s, I had surgery to remove my appendix, and that was when the doctors discovered that I had a uterus and ovaries. Some would say my chromosomes will define me as being a woman, and yet I’m also as you see me.

It was a very dark time for me. I felt as if my entire life as a priest had been lived in a state of sin. Of course I offered my resignation to the Holy Father. I flew to Rome, and I told him everything.

Lawrence:           He knew?

Benitez:               Yes, he knew.

Lawrence:           And he thought it acceptable for you to continue as an ordained minister?

Benitez:               We considered surgery to remove the female parts of my body, but the night before I was due to fly, I realised I was mistaken. I was who I had always been. It seemed to me more of a sin to change His handiwork than to leave my body as it was.

Lawrence:           So you are still um…?

Benitez:               I am what God made me, and perhaps it is my difference that would make me more useful. I think again of your sermon. I know what it is to exist between the world’s certainties.

There’s a lot to unpack in this concise exchange, as it is a masterful presentation of postmodern leftist propaganda. The centre of the entire issue, though, is that even the fundamental biological reality of being male or female should be “doubted”. Forget ordaining the world’s first female pope. Conclave wants to move beyond one’s biological sex and, subsequently, one’s gender identity entirely.

Having XX chromosomes, ovaries, and a uterus is not enough to define someone as a woman. Obviously, being intersex means that there would also be male biological traits, but these are not identified in Conclave, but are left deliberately ambiguous. However, with a male actor playing an intersex character, they don’t need to be. The voice of Cardinal Benitez is obviously male, even if he describes his body as having “female parts”.

As with the argument undergirding homosexuality, though, Conclave is arguing the “truth” that people who are intersex or transgender are “born that way”. Hence, to try to change one’s sexuality or gender is wrong. It is not a sin to be repented of, but any form of medical intervention or “conversion therapy” is itself sinning against God. For as Benitez says, that is “what God made me”.

It should be noted that even many gay activists reject this claim. They explicitly reject the argument of having been born gay and state that it was their own choice, as can be seen here and here. Rosaria Butterfield, a converted lesbian and influential Christian author, helpfully explains that:

“Homosexual orientation is a man-made theory about anthropology, or what it means to be human. It comes from atheistic worldviews that coalesced in the nineteenth century in Europe. Homosexual orientation is not a biblical concept, nor can it be manipulated in the service of Christian living.

Sigmund Freud and Charles Darwin (1809-1882) both contributed to the general idea of sexual orientation, the idea that human beings oriented-aimed, directed, pitched-by sexual desires, understood as an internal, organic drive over which we have no control…

The actual phrase ‘sexual orientation’ became the twentieth-century articulation that who you are is determined by the objects of your sexual desire. Under the worldview of homosexual orientation, homosexuality is a morally neutral and separate category of personhood, rendering the homosexual a victim of a world that just doesn’t understand sexual variance.” [5]

Significantly, sexual orientation is not a concept that is found in the Bible, and it should be subsequently rejected. What’s more, it only has a very recent use in the history of ideas. For most of human history, “homosexual” referred to an act that someone performed, rather than a category to which someone belonged. As Nancy Pearcey explains:

When was the meaning of the term changed? In the nineteenth century, as Christian moral influence waned, medical science took over the definition of sexuality. The moral terms right and wrong were changed to the supposedly objective scientific terms healthy and deviant. Under this new “medico-sexual regime,” says Foucault, what had been a “habitual sin” now became a “singular nature.” [6] What had been a “temporary aberration” now became “a species”. Science cast hetero- and homosexuality as divergent psychological types, innate and unchanging. [7]

The ramifications of the above insight are significant. As Pearcey goes on to explain:

But today, science is changing once again. Recent studies have found that sexual desire is more fluid than most people had thought. Lisa Diamond, who identifies as a lesbian, is a researcher with the American Psychological Association and discovered (to her own great surprise) that sexual feelings are not fixed. They can be influenced by environment, culture, and context.

People with exclusive, unchanging same-sex eroticism are actually the exception, not the norm. The Supreme Court’s Obergefell ruling, which declared sexuality to be “immutable”, is already out of date. Diamond states bluntly, “We know it’s not true… Queers have to stop saying: ‘Please help us, we were born this way, and we can’t change’ as an argument for legal standing.” [8]

One of the subtle ways the “truth” of “born-that-way” is reinforced in the movie Conclave is by Lawrence walking outside and caring for a stray turtle which had wandered from a pond. Many people try to argue that turtles are an example of a creature which the Creator has made that can change their biological sex or gender depending on the environment. This is believed to be connected not to chromosomes, but to the changing temperatures connected to climate change.

Hence, the turtle is not only the perfect metaphor for Cardinal Benitez’s sexual dilemma, but also the symbol for how the Church of Rome should respond to a changing world. Rather than be defined by tradition and dogma, they should be flexible and accommodate everyone, according to the temperature of the water at the time. In short, they should embrace “doubt” as nothing, not even one’s gender, is ultimately “certain”.

The Church Versus Islam

Another key dramatic and thematic element that Conclave addresses is that of the terrorism connected to Islam. In a spectacularly orchestrated scene, the proceedings of the conclave are abruptly disrupted by what turns out to be a car bomb and subsequent suicide bomber. Significantly, this happens just as Cardinal Lawrence is casting a ballot for himself, which, due to his own serious doubts (i.e. unbelief), is also a sign of judgment from the LORD.

But this also marks a key turning point in the movie, where the ultra-conservative Cardinal Tedessco is presented as a war-mongering and intolerant religious bigot. The fact that Cardinal Tedessco is from Italy and vehemently expresses his thoughts in Italian subconsciously makes him appear like the fascist dictator Mussolini.

This also gives the intersex Cardinal Benitez the opportunity to self-righteously pontificate (pun intended) on how the real enemy is within each person’s heart and not from the outside world. This is because he alone (apparently) has seen war and pain and suffering. What’s more, because he has ministered secretly in a Muslim-majority country, and thus has the moral authority to rebuke everyone else who has not.

Of course, some of this is true, but it’s not the whole truth. Militant Islam has always been a massive physical threat to the existence of Christianity, especially in the Middle East. Human history is a clear record of that fact, and if the Crusades hadn’t happened, then things would have been much worse. [9]

What’s more, much of present-day Europe is experiencing the constant threat of violence from Islamic-inspired hatred against Jews and Christians. And so, to dismiss the complexity of the issue by glibly suggesting that the problem only lies within each individual’s heart is not only pious nonsense, but an offensive affront to all of those who have lost their lives. However, there is just enough truth in the sentiment that many will sadly accept the lie.

What Can We Learn?

Conclave obviously raises some complex moral issues, and I’d actually encourage anyone to see it, but it must be from a position of prayerful discernment. Movies are multi-million-dollar propaganda machines, designed not only to entertain but also to communicate a message. And when that message undermines the definition of what “faith” means, then people who actually have faith in Jesus should be all the more cautious.

Not only are the production values first-rate, but it’s rare to find a movie with no gratuitous sex, violence, language or even blasphemy. Even more than that though, it is a great opportunity to discuss how movies try and shape our minds (contra Romans 12:1-3). And in particular, how truth remains true, while we live in a world of fifty shades of grey (let the reader understand).

Conclave also contains timely warnings about the abuse of power, the ever present temptation of greed, the insidious and demonic desire involved with selfish ambition, as well as the need to ultimately remain faithful to the calling of serving God.

However, Conclave finishes on a politically provocative, but ultimately unbelievable tenet, which will leave many feeling frustrated. An intersex pope? Really? If the key candidate from Africa was dismissed because of something which happened thirty years ago, how would the media respond to finding out that a pope wasn’t really a man, or woman?

I kept thinking about how different the message of the film might have been if it had focused on the theme of forgiveness. Significantly, Cardinal Lawrence had exhorted everyone in his homily: “Let us pray that God will grant us a pope who doubts. And may He grant us a pope who sins and asks for forgiveness… and carries on.” However, that’s precisely what didn’t happen.

When the African cardinal in question is discovered to have sinned historically, he is immediately instructed by Cardinal Lawrence to withdraw from the race and, sadly, to try and make atonement for his sin somehow. It is an incredibly moving scene, but our compassion for the man is mollified by the fact that he is presented as too enthusiastically wanting to be pope. That, and his angry and pompous attitude toward homosexuals and women.

But how good would it have been if the leader of the largest Church on earth could himself model the message of the Gospel? That both doubt, moral failing, and even denying Christ can all be forgiven, just as the apostle Peter (whom Catholics claim as the first pope) received? (Mark 16:7) That as with the apostle Paul, he could say:

Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners — of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason, I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His immense patience as an example for those who would believe in Him and receive eternal life.” (1 Timothy 1:15-17)

Instead, we’re left with a film which champions “doubt”. At a time when one of the first executive orders President Donald Trump signs into law that the United States government will only recognise there being two genders, many will be applauding the movie’s subversive message. But for the Christian, moral and theological truth remains a spiritual necessity. As the author of Hebrews writes:

“And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6)

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[1] Full disclaimer: I have watched the movie but not read the book. However, from my research of reviews online, the film stays pretty close to the plot and structure of the book.

[2] For a good review of Conclave’s numerous flaws from a Roman Catholic perspective, see James Bradshaw, There are so many bad movies about Popes. ‘Conclave’ is even worse. While Bradshaw makes many excellent points, I think his review ultimately misses the underlying subversive message of the film.

[3] See Proverbs 3:5-8; Matthew 14:28-31; 21:18-22; 28:16-17.

[4] Whereas people who are transgender are biologically male or female, but identify socially as another gender, people who are intersex have both biological characteristics. It is thought that this affects .01 per cent of the world’s population.

[5] Rosaria Butterfield, Five Lies of Our Anti-Christian Age (Crossway, 2023), 65-66.

[6] Michel Foucault, The History of Sexuality, vol 1 (Random House, 1976), 42-43; Jenell Williams Paris, The End of Sexuality (IVP, 2011). Quoted in Nancy R. Pearcey, Love Thy Body (Baker, 2018), 166.

[7] Pearcey, Love Thy Body, 166.

[8] Pearcey, Love Thy Body, 167; Lisa Diamond, Sexual Fluidity (Harvard University Press, 2008).

[9] See Rodney Stark, God’s Battalions: The Case for the Crusades (HarperCollins, 2011).

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5 Comments

  1. Leonie J Robson 28 January 2025 at 9:11 am - Reply

    Thanks for your help, seeing the film and summarising the key points.
    I suppose that we should expect Hollywood to continue eroding Christian values as it’s been successfully doing so for decades.
    It saddens us to think that our brothers and sisters could have their faith undermined by the movie. How we need to be grounded and diligent, guarding against the influence of Woke in all their forms.

  2. Greg Atkins 28 January 2025 at 10:07 am - Reply

    “What If the Vatican Went the Full D.E.I?”
    Would anyone notice the difference?

    • Em 22 March 2025 at 8:30 am - Reply

      pretty much lol

  3. Countess Antonia Maria Violetta Scrivanich 28 January 2025 at 11:06 am - Reply

    The movie + topic are of no interest to me at all ! Just garbage.

  4. Countess Antonia Maria Violetta Scrivanich 28 January 2025 at 11:24 am - Reply

    I never knew the famous Watergate Building had been built with Vatican money. My retired American friends , Carmel + Margaret Mc Kiever lived in it. In 1968 we were in Rome. They had a personal, private audience with Pope Paul VI to persuade him to canonise Mother Beaton . I was invited to accompany them , but , refused because I was angry with the Pope over the Vatican 2 changes.It is one of the great regrets of my life I did not go , only because I would have seen parts of the Vatican, tourists never see ! History has proved I was right because Vatican 2 destroyed the Catholic church–our churches are empty+ our youth are a sad, confused lot who are into pornograpy, divorces, suicide , etc.

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