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Joe Rogan has questioned why progressive ideology is infiltrating Christian churches, exposing how political slogans are filling the spiritual vacuum left by declining religious belief.

While VeggieTales creator Phil Vischer offered soft support to Democrats on transgenderism, the world’s biggest podcaster was talking about woke ideology infesting Christian theology.

Vischer was responding to criticism of “Christian” Texas Democrat James Talarico, who used the “God is non-binary” argument in 2021 to stop opposition to the trans takeover of female sports.

Video of Talarico’s cherry-picked “theological” defence of transgenderism resurfaced online following his election to the US Senate after the 2026 mid-term elections.

VeggieTales Creator Draws Criticism Over ‘God Is Non-Binary’ Debate

In what appeared to be well-intentioned comments, Vischer declared, “God is a biological male is a strange hill to die on.”

To which one user replied, “Only if you ignore the fact that God did in fact die on a hill as a biological male.”

*Language warning.

Vischer somewhat clarified his comments, saying that “this was Christian theology 101. God is spirit. Sex is material.”

He later conceded that Talarico’s argument was “needlessly inflammatory,” adding that the term non-binary should be avoided when describing God because of its baggage.

Although Vischer did not completely endorse Talarico’s comments or voice any criticism of transgenderism, the timing, context and his overall remarks were not a good look.

As Not The Bee remarked, “Phil seems to be staggeringly unaware of how activists, including Talarico, are using language to try to fit God into the framework of Marxist gender theory.

“Those of us who are aware of the language war (and when these liberals argue for Asherah and the Queen of Heaven, they are really giving away the demonic plot) tend to raise our eyebrows when the creator of VeggieTales is on a multi-day rant about the nuances of God’s pronouns.”

Joe Rogan Questions Woke Ideology Invading Christian Theology

This “God is non-binary” theme was also touched on by Joe Rogan in a recent podcast with Triggernometry hosts Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster.

Rogan pointed out that woke ideology was filling a vacuum left behind by people abandoning religion.

Puzzled by woke churches, he said, “Another thing that’s interesting with the religious thing when it comes to the left is there’s been this larger-than-normal presence of these, like LGBT pastors and these people that are promoting a very different Christianity.”

“They’re talking about things that, you know, biblical scholars are like, ‘Hey, wait, what page is this on? What? Where does it say abortion’s okay? Like, how are you getting to that? Where does it say God’s non-binary?’”

“There’s a lot of this weirdness — this woke weirdness,” he said, “that sort of entered into religion, and some pastors are doing it.”

“And you go, okay, is that good? I don’t know if that’s good. I mean, is it because you’re not following the original stuff?

“So, if we’re not going to follow the original stuff, shouldn’t we go and take out the slavery part first? Like, shouldn’t we go and take out the slaughtering of women and children first? Cuz that’s in there. There’s a lot of stuff that’s in there; we should probably concentrate on that first before we start saying God’s non-binary.”

Progressive Politics Has Become a Substitute Religion

Rogan’s bewilderment about what I regard as woke ideology infesting Christian theology was part of the broader discussion about power vacuums.

During the conversation, he asserted that church carparks are proof Christianity works simply because of how orderly people are when entering and exiting church parking lots.

Rogan also said that he thinks the Left is more loony currently because they have no moral scaffolding like the Ten Commandments.

He said, “I think in the absence of religion, we find something that does the job of religion. And that thing that does the job of religion is being progressive or being whatever you’re being, like find a cause. Find a thing. Climate change, whatever it is, find a thing that becomes your religion.

“And anybody that is confronting that with an alternative perspective is a heretic. That’s a bad person. That’s evil. That’s an infidel.”

Kisin and Foster later affirmed some of that sentiment when Foster, who was raised Catholic, leaned into the point that people who go to church want the real deal, like the Latin Mass.

Noting the positives of religion, Kisin, quoting Jonathan Haidt, referred to it as a “social technology for achieving cohesion within a group.”

Vischer’s comments about the use of language and Democrat senators turning theology into slogans to serve a political agenda are sound examples of Rogan’s overall point: Progressive politics has replaced religion.

As Foster told Rogan, “You know, people don’t have a good grasp of actually what’s happening. So, what it is that people have inside them is a vacuum and eventually something has to fill that vacuum. Because you can’t operate, particularly now, when someone asks you about whatever it is — climate change, the Middle East, the war — whatever subject you want to talk about.”

Foster argued that “most people simply don’t have the education, the answers; they don’t have their own opinions, so they simply reach for something, and you know what you’re going to reach for? You’re going to reach for a slogan. And it’s going to come from the most prominent person there is.”